Lucretius,
Aristotle, and Plato all seem to be on the same track to me. Plato is searching
for the way to achieve perfect justice and believes that would lead to everyone
living a satisfying life. While Aristotle seems to take it one step further
foregoing justice and arguing that we should instead judge everything based on
what brings people the most happiness or in other words leads to them living
well and doing well. This sounds awfully similar to Plato’s end goal and his
idea of ergon. Lucretius seems to further refine these two previous ideas by
stating the goal should be the removal of pain or as close to it as possible
because in the end that would lead to happiness in a more general sense. All
seem to be trying to get close to what every individual wants. In my
understanding Lucretius and the epicureans seem to have hit the bull’s-eye. By
definition pain is something that is a negative experience so by eliminating
the negatives in life nothing would remain but happiness and pleasure and at
the very least neutral experiences. The stoics however seem to abandon this
seemingly well done refinement of ideas and go down a different path. Stoics
make assumptions that are not necessarily true like that somehow in nature there
is a path for everyone laid out. This seems to be more hopeful and more
abstract. What “nature” demands can be interpreted in many different ways and
leaves room for error. However close to what everyone truly desires in life the
epicureans might be their ideas on free will seem unnecessary. Adding a “swerve”
to the universe is not necessary to make our choices valid effectually. Our
choices still say something about us and how we think no matter how
deterministic the universe is. Swerve seems to be trying to fix a problem that
does not truly exist. The illusion of free will is enough to maintain meaning
in our choices. ISIS is no less responsible for their actions whether or not
free will truly exists. The blame is still on them, free will may not exist but
there is still an abstraction of it that is relevant to us. Ultimately epicureans
seem to have the most well refined philosophy out of the four to me. Aristotle
and Lucretius both have very similar ideas at the core one aiming for the positive
another eliminating the negative.
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